He could destroy us. Vader: If he could be turned, he would be a powerful allie. Emperor: yes. He would be a great asset. Can it be done? Vader: He will join us or die. Granted its only been added last year for the DVD but it is clearly in the films now. Hence, "Vader is obsessed with finding him" not for personal reasons, but for vengeance on the Empire's behalf for destroying their public icon--later in the film he learns the person he has been hunting is in fact his own son!
As soon as he finds out he quickly suggests an alternative to killing him, and convinces the Emperor to have him join them of course planning to overthrow the Emperor. Registered: Jan 11, Dosnt the orgiginal post violate the spoiler policy? WLDB , May 21, Registered: Apr 29, It's been a while since I read it so I might be mistaken, but doesn't Vader discover that Luke is his son during the events of Splinter of the Mind's Eye?
No, I don't think so. ESB's new dialogue is more for the benefit of the audience than anything else. And Vader isn't in real shock there - he's playing dumb so the emperor won't know his true ambitions regarding Luke.
Luke Skywalker was discovered through interrogation, spy-networking, and research. Simple as that. It was bound to happen. Registered: Apr 2, I remember flipping through a comic with Vader in it. Some rebel within the rebels was on some planet. Does Darth Vader know Luke is his son all throughout? From the original movie, Vader seems to disregard any family connection and views Luke as the weaker enemy. It does take him a few years but Vader does catch on. In the next film, The Empire Strikes Back, Darth Vader not only finds a vested interest in Luke Skywalker as more than someone powerful in the Force but a family connection that Vader can try to convince to come to join him in the Dark Side.
Vader and his spies come back together after the Battle of Yavin to discover dirt against the Rebel Alliance, especially against Luke Skywalker. Seeing Luke as a direct threat to the Empire, Vader focuses all his attention on him. Vader initially brushes it off, citing his youth as a lack of threat. When he learns about Luke, it all makes more sense to Palpatine, and he hatches a new plan to eliminate Vader and mold Luke into a powerful Sith.
Most notably, Palpatine says, "I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker" instead of "Luke Skywalker. Knowing that Palpatine only learned the truth for himself just moments prior, the new line can be interpreted as a way of goading Vader. The chapter mentions that as Vader speaks to Palpatine, the old master senses Vader's "struggle to control his desires," which confirms his suspicions. This is just one example of how From a Certain Point of View helps add a little more to the movies, allowing even longtime fans to get a greater sense of appreciation from them.
Chris Agar is a news editor for Screen Rant, also writing features and movie reviews for the site as one of Screen Rant's Rotten Tomatoes approved critics. It's worth noting that in the DVD and Blu-ray edits, considered to be the current state of canon, the conversation with the Emperor mentioned in the original question is altered :. The Emperor: We have a new enemy. The young rebel who destroyed the Death Star.
I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker. It's strongly implied here that Vader and the Emperor had never discussed Luke up until this point. Vader's line "How is that possible? This new information eliminates the first interpretation, but the exact meaning of Vader's "how is that possible" is still up to speculation as of issue 6 of the comic series.
This takes place in the 4-issue comic miniseries "Vader's Quest", published in by Dark Horse. During the story, Vader is attempting to learn more about the pilot who destroyed the Death Star. Rebel pilot Thurlow Harris has returned to his home planet Centares to spread word about the Death Star's destruction, but is captured by Imperial forces and interrogated. Before dying, he gives up the last name of Skywalker as the pilot, right before Vader arrives.
When Vader later hears a recording of the interrogation, he puts two-and-two together and realizes that the pilot must be his son. He then becomes obsessed with finding Luke and capturing him alive - to such a degree that he originally attempts to hide the name from the Emperor, killing everyone involved who has heard the name "Skywalker".
Unbeknownst to him, however, someone has already escaped and told the Emperor everything - a fact which the Emperor conceals for the time-being to test Vader's loyalty. In real time, however, that issue was released in , nearly twenty years before "Vader's Quest" was published. Fett goes to Tatooine and begins interrogating people around Mos Eisley, eventually getting the information from a moisture farmer. After facing Luke himself in a brief skirmish, Fett relays this information to Vader.
Note: I pilfered the following from my answer to this earlier question. Assuming that there were cameras and microphones in the Death Star's detention center, and that Vader was smart enough to check them after Leia escaped, he would have gotten all the information he needed from Luke's introduction:. Luke Skywalker: Huh? Oh, the uniform. I'm here to rescue you! Luke Skywalker: I'm here to rescue you! Note: Even if there were no recordings from the detention center, there were presumably wireless communications scanners, which would have recorded Luke's chatter with C-3PO, as well as a recording from the hangar control room where Luke, Han, Obi Wan, Chewbacca, R2, and 3PO went after getting off the Falcon:.
Obviously, Vader already knew that Obi Wan had been there because he killed him , and he would have been able to piece together the rest of the story pretty quickly. A few days before the Millennium Falcon showed up, it had blasted its way through a blockade on Tatooine, at the Mos Eisley spaceport.
Just before that happened, an old man in a robe had lopped off someone's arm with a lightsaber in the Mos Eisley Cantina. The old man was with a blond kid who matched the description of the "Luke" who had helped Leia escape the Death Star.
Days prior to this, the droids with the stolen Death Star plans had jettisoned from the consular ship and landed on Tatooine, and chances are, Mos Eisley was the nearest spaceport to the site where the droids had landed. All of this happened not far from the house where Vader's stepfather, and later, Vader's stepbrother lived. The stepbrother and his wife were dead, and Imperial stormtroopers had killed them while searching for the missing droids.
We don't know how efficient the empire was regarding birth records, identification papers, censuses, etc, but if they put even the slightest amount of effort into such documentation, Vader would have had access to conclusive proof that his stepbrother had been raising a boy named Luke, and that this boy had no known birth certificate.
He may or may not have had information regarding a certain "Ben Kenobi" living nearby. As to when this happened, I would think that the first thing Vader did after the Falcon escaped and after the people Vader chose as scapegoats had been Force strangled was to find out how the Princess had gotten away.
This probably happened within hours at the most. It probably would have taken another day or two for Vader to hear about what had happened on Tatooine. Once all of this information was available to Vader, it probably wouldn't have taken more than a few moments for him to piece everything together and come to the crucial conclusion:.
Fast forward a couple of days, and the evidence, already very compelling, becomes too clear to question:. This theory runs into trouble, however, when we recognize that Vader doesn't seem to consider the possibility that Leia is his daughter until he reads Luke's thoughts in RotJ. The young Rebel who destroyed the Death Star. Note that this directly conflicts with the main novelisation where Vader apparently already knows of the existence of Luke:.
The Emperor emphasized the danger as he continued. We have a new enemy who could bring about our destruction. The thought was impossible.
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